Conservatism vs. Liberalism — And The Future

Ken AshfordDemocrats, RepublicansLeave a Comment

This is so good, I’m reprinting (almost) the whole thing.  From the Anonymous Liberal:

Over at The Corner today, Jonah Goldberg wrote the following:

Now, I don’t say any of this because I’m particularly bullish on conservatism’s immediate future. It’s got problems. But they’re not as fundamental as the problems liberalism faces. Conservatism has a problem putting its ideas into action. Liberalism has a problem figuring out what it’s ideas are. Taking the liberal mish-mash and simply declaring it a "new politics" doesn’t make it so.

It’s entirely understandable and predictable that in the wake of this election liberals would go into wishful thinking mode and declare that they’ve escaped history. But that doesn’t make it any less absurd.

Now I’ll readily admit that this election, however lopsided, does not spell the end of "conservatism." The conservative movement, in some form or other, will always be a potent force in American politics. We have a bipolar system and the debate is always shifting; the parties are constantly realigning around new issues.

That said, I have to take issue with Jonah’s suggestion that "conservatism has a problem putting its ideas into action" while "liberalism has a problem figuring out what its ideas are."

Let’s consider his first statement. I think he’s certainly right that conservatives have had a tough time implementing their ideas. But why is that? After all, the Republicans have controlled all the branches of government for the last six years.

Well, I think the explanation is actually pretty simple. Many of the most prominent conservative policy ideas are either 1) very unpopular, 2) totally unrealistic and unworkable, or 3) both. That’s why we haven’t privatized social security or created individualized health savings accounts. These are just bad ideas; they are policies crafted to fit a pre-conceived ideology, not to solve real world problems.

The most fundamental problem with the conservative approach to governing is that it encourages its adherents to approach all problems with ideological blinders on. The range of potential solutions to any given problem is always very limited because so much is taken off the table before the discussion even begins. This approach leads conservatives to endorse policy ideas that are at best sub-optimal and at worst disastrously ill-advised.

Which brings me to Jonah’s suggestion that "liberalism has a problem figuring out what its ideas are." It’s not surprising that a conservative like Jonah would think this. But as I’ve written a number of times before (and as the Bertrand Russell quote in the masthead illustrates) liberalism is better understood as a way of approaching problems, not as a rigid set of substantive principles. In other words, what Jonah points to as a bug is actually a feature of liberalism; indeed, I’d argue it’s the defining feature.

For instance, liberals are not interested in big government for big government’s sake. If a problem can better be addressed through a market-based approach, they’re all for it. It is certainly true that there are a number of policies which most liberals support. But the reason they support these policies is because they believe they have been demonstrated, through argument or experience, to be superior to the alternatives. And most liberals aren’t afraid to re-examine their policy preferences should experience and empirical data suggest that something else would work better.

The problem with conservatism is that it discourages this sort of periodic re-examination of policy preferences and the premises underlying them. The Democratic candidates who won on Tuesday are not a homogeneous bunch and they will almost certainly come to the table with different ideas and different policy preferences. But I think what they largely have in common is a determination to reach sensible solutions to pressing problems. At least I hope so, because that’s what liberalism is supposed to be about. It’s about having an open-minded and outcome-oriented approach to governance.

Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

President Vilsack?

Ken AshfordElection 2008Leave a Comment

I don’t know his politics, but they would have to be pretty damn good before I vote for someone with that last name. 

I mean, it’s a word just waiting to be an insult.

As in, "That guy.  He’s such a vilsack!"

Wonkette laments:

Jesus Christ, can’t we even have a single weekend off before the goddamned presidential campaign starts?

Here, here.

Kaye Grogan On The Election

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Let’s dive in, shall we?

By now the leftover champagne of victory is stale…

But we can still heat up the hors d’ouerves of triumph — they’ll taste okay, I think.

…and the winners are actually losers.

Down is also up.

Contrary to what a mass of liberal ideologues might be smoking in their pipes, while shouting their hurrahs — conservatism is far from dead in America.

Oooookay then.

I have to agree with the analogy that this was not a win-win situation for the Democrats….

No, it was just a plain "win" situation.

— as usual the midterm elections verified that many conservative voters bit their nose off to spite their face. They are getting quite famous for this.

Neat trick — biting off their noses.  Maybe conservative voters should join a sideshow carnival.

And who is this "they"?  Doesn’t "conservative voters" include you, Kaye?

According to one report: many of the Jewish persuasion helped to "send in the clowns" apparently in both the House and Senate by a whopping 87%.

Ah, so it’s the Jeeeeeewwws’ fault!  Well hell, Kaye — isn’t it always?

When I went to the polls to cast my vote, I had to ask myself: "how would Jesus vote?"

Optical scanner, I’m guessing.

I know for certain Jesus would not be in favor of a party that embraces radical positions specifically linking themselves to abortion on-demand — nor would He be favorable to same-sex marriages.

Then again, Jesus was a Jeeeeew, so who knows?

I have heard that we need a change from the same old Democratic establishment to the point of nauseam. You bet we need a change from them — but I guess we’ll have to wait at least two more years.

Yes.  We’ve been dominated by Democrats for too long.  They’ve had the House, the Senate, the White House, the Supreme Court….

By then, we might all be buried under rubble by terrorists.

Really? All of us?

With Rep. John Conyers of Michigan still apparently gung-ho on waging his "impeachment" investigation against President Bush, Nancy Pelosi is going to have her hands full, if she really means what she said about impeachment hearings are off of the table.

Because she is, after all, a woman, and how can a woman say "no" to a man?

The only trouble with that? … Conyers’ Pit Bull is probably waiting to devour the leftovers.

Leftovers go good with stale champagne of victory, we hear.

It’s amazing and quite revealing how a do-nothing party was able to take over control in both branches of government…

Actually, honey — the legislative branch is one branch of government.  It’s comprised of two houses, the upper and lower, but it’s — oh, never mind.

…without a viable platform, while riding the coattails of the opposing party to victory — and in a landslide to boot.

Democrats rode in to victory on the coattails of Republicans?  Really, Kaye?

There is not any doubt that many conservatives who tried to stay the course with a party slipping away from their voters, have pie in their faces, but pie washes off…

Or Conyer’s Pit Bull can lick it off, I suppose.

…while deception is branded in the souls of deceivers until doomsday.

A lot of lovely illiteration.

Isn’t it funny how all of a sudden the Democrats are calling on the Republicans to practice bi-partisanship and work with them for the good of the country? Hypocrisy to the max!

"To the max"?  That’s like totally rad and funny to the extreme!

Actually, Kaye, it was Bush evoking a spirit of bi-partisanship today, after weeks and months of calling the opposition party "traitors" and "cowards" and the like.

As the Democrats plot their systematic plan to also take over the White House in 2008 — the bony skeletons in their closets are about to make their long awaited debut.

Such as….?  C’mon Kaye – don’t be a tease.

In actuality, while the Democrats are in power — the Republicans can now reverse the roles, and let the scandals rock the world of their colleagues.

I can hardly wait!

While the voters sent in the clowns on November 7 — it is obvious just as many clowns made their grand exit.

So it’s a wash, right?

Anyway, Kaye’s column kind of reminds us of this, from The Onion:

Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats

WASHINGTON, DC—Republican officials are blaming tonight’s GOP losses on Democrats, who they claim have engaged in a wide variety of "aggressive, premeditated, anti-Republican campaigns" over the past six-to-18 months. "We have evidence of a well-organized, well-funded series of operations designed specifically to undermine our message, depict our past performance in a negative light, and drive Republicans out of office," said Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman, who accused an organization called the Democratic National Committee of spearheading the nationwide effort. "There are reports of television spots, print ads, even volunteers going door-to-door encouraging citizens to vote against us." Acknowledging that the "damage has already been done," Mehlman is seeking a promise from Democrats to never again engage in similar practices.

Election 2006: A Victory For Conservatives?

Ken AshfordElection 2006Leave a Comment

That’s the spin.  Conservatives are trying to argue that the election results point to a victory for conservatism.  This morning, for example, George Will writes that "conservatism continued its advance Tuesday."

What’s the basis for this argument?  Apparently, it’s because some of the Democrats who won were not actual socialists*.

They point to people like Lieberman, who won out over the more progressive Ned Lamont.

Well, that’s true, but it’s also true that the conservative Democrat Harold Ford failed to win in Tennessee.  South Dakota, a very red state, rejected an abortion ban.  And on and on. For every example of a so-called "blue dog" Democrat, there’s a dozen or so counter-examples of Democrats-acting-like-Republicans who got ousted

And when you look at the map, you’ll see lots of blue in formerly red states, like Kansas and Montana, compared to two years ago.

Ezra Klein has the takedown of the meme:

The ideological spectrum is a tricky thing. Take Heath Schuler, exhibit A in the rightwing Democrats meme. He’s a cultural conservative, no doubt. But however far right he drifts on those issues — which, under a Democratic Congress, he won’t be voting on because they won’t be brought to floor — he’s notably left on economic issues. Today, for instance, he’s giving a press conference under the auspices of the United Steelworkers with Great Liberal Hope Sherrod Brown, where they’ll discuss the need for new trade policies and their success in making active opposition to NAFTA a winning issue. That’s not centrist Democrat. It’s not moderate liberal. That’s populism, kids, and it’s leftier than polite company has allowed for quite some time.

So is Shuler rightwing? Seems like a tough case to me. Sherrod Brown? Liberal as they come. Defeating South Dakota’s abortion ban initiative? Passing Missouri’s stem cell initiative? All those progressives who toppled liberal Republicans in the Northeast? Somebody think they won in the blue bastions with roaring conservatism? Meanwhile, the most conservative of the serious Democratic challengers this cycle, Harold Ford, went down to defeat. Bravely fought race, tough environs, etc. But with an out-and-out liberal winning Ohio and a right-of-center Democrat losing Tennessee, we’re really going to call this election for conservatism?

I don’t think so. That distorted interpretation is being promoted by an array of rightwingers and self-styled centrists anxious to constrain the new majority’s perceived range of motion. Some of them are conservatives trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Others are "centrist" Democrats look to grad defeat from the jaws of victory. Both are, for ideological reasons, afraid that a Democratic majority will govern like…Democrats. And make no mistake: They’ll convince no small number of Democrats to eschew any such legislative style. But if the country had wanted a continuation of conservative rule, they would have voted for it. Instead, they voted Democratic. And their elects should give them what they asked for.

Kos does a breakdown:

In the Senate:

Bernie Sanders, VT: So conservative that he’s a "socialist". His National Journal "liberal" rating is 89.7 (out of 100).

Sherrod Brown, OH: NJ liberal rating is 84.2. For comparison’s sake, Harold Ford — a real conservative Democrat — had a 58.3 rating.

Sheldon Whitehouse, RI: An unabashed liberal in every definition of the word. I mean, he defeated a liberal Republican.

Claire McCaskill, MO: She’s a progressive on every major issue. In fact, it was one of the GOP’s lines of attacks against her. As the conservative Real Clear Politics wrote in its race summary:

State Auditor Claire McCaskill lost a close governor’s race two years ago to Gov. Matt Blunt 51% – 48% and thus starts out of the gate with a high level of name recognition and a solid base of support. However, McCaskill lost 90 out of 97 counties statewide and has a problem of being perceived as too liberal outside of metro St. Louis and Kansas City. Missouri is a relatively, culturally conservative state that President Bush won by 3% in 2000 and 7% in 2004 and running the standard Republican playbook hitting McCaskill as too liberal on judges, the war, and taxes should be enough for Talent to carry the day.

Amy Klobuchar, MN: There’s nothing "conservative" about our newest senator from one of the bluest states in the union.

Jon Tester, MT: One of the people accused of being a "conservative" Dem, yet he’s against flag burning amendment, against an amendment banning gay marriage, against the Patriot Act, and against the war. He’s an economic populist, social libertarian, pro-choice Democrat. He may be one of the very few senators who actually lives paycheck to paycheck. He’s an organic farmer.

He’s not Bernie Sanders or Sherrod Brown, but a "conservative" Dem? Ridiculous.

Jim Webb, VA: Politically very similar to Tester. He’s libertarian on social issues, an economic populist. He wants out of Iraq and he has a personal stake in the war — his son is actually deployed to Iraq. Sure, he served in the Reagan Administration, and sure, he can be classified as a "moderate" (whatever that means), but he’s no "conservative".

In the House:

Yarmuth in KY-03? An unabashed liberal. The kind, in fact, that Rahm said couldn’t win in the South.

We picked up two seats in blue country in Connecticut, four in Pennsylvania (two in blue territory, and the other two not "conservative" by any real definition of the word). KS-02? Boyda is no conservative. The two Florida seats (16, 22)? Not conservative. The three New York seats? Not conservatives. The two in New Hampshire? True progressives.

I mean, going down the list, the only Democrats out of 28 officially confirmed
victories that could be called "conservative" are Shuler in NC-08, Lampson in TX-22, and the three Indiana Dems,

That’s it.

Are there moderates? Yes. Is the country moving to the center? Of course. The Democrats will push it there from the far right. If you define the "center" by where the American people reside, we are the center party.

But the notion that it’s "conservative" Democrats who won last night is utter hogwash, a desperate gambit by Republicans to try and spin something good from the election.

But they’re wrong. What we saw last night is that despite the institutional advantages the GOP had — more money, incumbency, redistricting, the VRWC, and the bully pulpit of the White House, the Speaker’s Gavel, and the Senate Majority Leader’s office — Republicans still suffered epic loses.

This was a progressive victory.

*  Actually, all kidding aside, one winner is a socialist — Bernie Sanders, the new senator from Vermont.

The Onion Covers Rumsfeld’s Resignation

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The Onion:

Rumsfeld: ‘My Half-Assed Job Here Is Done’

WASHINGTON, DC—After nearly six years of much-publicized service as Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld announced his resignation Wednesday afternoon, saying that he had "proudly accomplished everything [he’d] set out to bungle." "Years ago, I decided to bog this great nation down in an extended, grueling foreign occupation, and I’m happy to say that’s exactly what I’ve done," said Rumsfeld in a farewell address at the White House, during which he urged Americans to continue waging the ill-conceived, mismanaged, and evidently unwelcome fight for democracy in the Middle East. "Each of my actions—from undersupplying troops with body armor to focusing on capturing Saddam Hussein while Osama bin Laden remained free—has led America inexorably toward our current state of extreme crisis. Well, anyway, goodbye!" President Bush expressed confidence that Robert Gates, his new nominee for Secretary of Defense, will be able to "fuck everything up the rest of the way."

Ewwww

Ken AshfordSex/Morality/Family ValuesLeave a Comment

Via Pandagon, an ooky promotional trailer for purity balls.  A "purity ball", for those who don’t know, is:

a formal event attended by fathers and their daughters. Fathers in attendance pledge before God to protect their young daughters’ purity in mind, body and soul. Daughters are necessarily expected to remain chaste.

[Source: Wikipedia]

Amanda Marcotte describes the video:

If you weren’t already completely grossed out by this phenomenon, just wait until you hear the guy explain about a 17-year-old girl sitting in her dad’s lap and explaining that she doesn’t need boyfriends because she gets everything she’d need from them from Daddy.

Wait For It

Ken AshfordEconomy & Jobs & Deficit, Election 2006, Right Wing Punditry/IdiocyLeave a Comment

At 12:19 p.m. yesterday, conservative blog Wizbang posted the following:

Right now, the Dow is down by about 29 points, one day after the Democrats win back the House and probably the Senate.

Later that day, from no less than Fox News:

Stocks Rise on Election Results

Wall Street rose for a third straight session Wednesday, with the Dow Jones industrials reaching another record close as investors grew more confident that a huge victory by Democrats in congressional elections would result in gridlock and keep lawmakers out of the way of business interests.

Dear Dismayed Conservatives

Ken AshfordElection 2006Leave a Comment

Dear Dismayed Conservatives:

I hereby make these promises to you.

We will protect your lives and livelihoods.

We will listen to and respect your beliefs.

We will never try to force you to change your religion, sexual orientation, or first language.

We will do our best to reduce the number of abortions in our country.

We will have no tolerance for corruption and cronyism, even in our own party.

ESPECIALLY in our own party.

We will never tell you that you are unpatriotic.

We will never tell you that your opinion doesn’t count.

We will never waste your lives for power.

We will hold our leaders to a high ethical standard and when they succumb to lust for power, WE WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

If we forget this, please, please, please, remind us.

We need you to do this. You are America as much as we are.
Let’s go.

— Written by this guy

Attention Dittoheads!

Ken AshfordRight Wing Punditry/IdiocyLeave a Comment

Were you aware that Rush Limbaugh has been bullshitting you lately, by saying things he doesn’t necessarily believe?  Yup:

Now I’m liberated from having to constantly come in here every day and try to buck up a bunch of people who don’t deserve it, to try to carry the water and make excuses for people who don’t deserve it.

***

It has been difficult coming in here, trying to make the case for it when the people who are supposedly in favor of it can’t even make the case themselves — and to have to come in here and try to do their jobs. I’m a radio guy! I understand what this program has become in America and I understand the leadership position it has. I was doing what I thought best, but at this point, people who don’t deserve to have their water carried, or have themselves explained as they would like to say things but somehow aren’t able to?

Someone needs to explain to Rush that nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to "carry water" for anybody.  It’s his show, for crying out loud. 

But it’s a glaring example of how someone can sacrifice their own principles and beliefs out of an irrational hatred for anything "lubrul".

Shorter Rush Limbaugh:

"I was willing to foist a pack of incompetents upon an unsuspecting public and defend them endlessly because they think the way I do."

What The Rumsfeld Resignation Means

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I didn’t see the Bush presser, but I gathered (from those that did) that the pundits are seeing this the same way as me.

This is Bush finally finally finally breaking himself away from the neocon doctrine of pre-emption and aggression.

This is Bush saying to Cheney (and Rumsfeld), "I’m not listening to you anymore."

[UPDATE:  Here’s an excerpt from the presser to prove my point:

Q: It’s "full speed ahead" on Iraq, Cheney said. Are you listening to the people or are you listening to Cheney?

"No question Iraq was on people’s minds…As you have just learned, I have made a change in Secretary of Defense."]

Part of the reason I say this is because Rumsfeld’s replacement is Robert Gates, a man from Bush the Elder’s Administration.  Gates comes from the camp of, and was a protoge of, Brent Scrowcroft.  These were men who told Bush 41 that going into Iraq after the Persian Gulf War would get us bogged down in a quagmire.  In fact, Scrowcroft has become one of the biggest critics of the Iraq War.

So Gates isn’t Rummy-lite.  He’s something else.

It looks like Bush 43 has finally listened to the wisdom of his father’s advisors — men who heretofore had no voice in the present White House.  And the neo-cons and PNACs are now historical footnotes.  That’s my take.

UPDATE:  Jonathan Schwarz says:

Let’s remember this section from Bob Woodward’s book State of Denial:

[Andrew] Card kept pushing, at one point raising the possibility of change at the Pentagon with Vice President Cheney.

No, Cheney said, he was predisposed to recommend that the president keep Rumsfeld right where he was. Card was not surprised.

In private conversations with Bush, Cheney said Rumsfeld’s departure, no matter how it might be spun, would be seen only as an expression of doubt and hesitation on the war. It would give the war critics great heart and momentum, he confided to an aide, and soon they would be after him and then the president. He virtually insisted that Rumsfeld stay.

UPDATE:  The Left Coaster agrees with me, but says it better:

Poppy has taken charge of the last two years of Bush’s term. The Baker/Hamilton report is now hotwired for implementation when it is issued in January, and the Democrats should get behind it now.

It also means that Dick Cheney is about to have a health problem and be replaced for the last two years. Yet just two weeks ago, Bush strongly defended Rummy and Cheney, and he and the GOP rubber-stampers in Congress said that no one could do a better job than Rummy. And they were all sacrificed today for Bush’s stubborn refusal to accept responsibility, and correct a problem and chart a new course before the election when it could have mattered politically.

From The Talent Show:

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BREAKING NEWS: RUMSFELD RESIGNING!

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CNN has the headline, no article.

MSNBC has something — he’s being replaced by Robert Gates, CIA Director under Bush 41.

The NY Times editorial from this morning is prescient.

UPDATE:  Apparently, it’s been in the works for some time.  Yet, Bush said last week that Rummy would stay on for the remaining two years.

So . . . Bush lied (again).  When asked why he kept it a secret from Americans, Bush said he didn’t want to influence the elections.  Does that make sense?  if Rummy had resigned two weeks ago, the Republicans might have pulled this one out.

Liars and morons.

UPDATE:  Apparently, Bush doesn’t think the bad election results (from his perspective) had anything to do with Iraq and/or that Americans don’t get the it.  Yeah.  Keep talking, Delusion Boy.

Still this is a….

Rummy, we hardly knew ye.

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