An Odd Tactic

Ken AshfordIraqLeave a Comment

I’m confused by Powerline’s Jonah Goldberg.  In his first editorial for the LA Times, he writes in favor of "a lie for a just cause".  He doesn’t think that Bush mislead the public, but he says that IF Bush did, it’s okay because the cause was just.

I have a hard time wrapping my head around that.  Certainly, there are lies that are okay if the cause is just.  They’re called "white lies".  When your grandmother takes the trouble to cook you dinner, and you eat it, and she asks you how it tastes, you say it tastes great even if it doesn’t.

But that works for grandmothers, and girlfriends who ask if this dress makes their butt look to big.  You don’t base a war — nay, an entire foreign policy — on a "white lie".

It seems to me that in situations like that, the reverse is true.  If the cause (or causa belli)  is just, then you really have no reason to lie.

Jonah cites a historical precedent:

Just three days before Pearl Harbor, on Dec. 4, 1941, the Chicago Tribune and Washington Star-Ledger broke the story that FDR had already drafted a plan for war with Germany, a plan that entailed a 10-million-man army invading Germany by the middle of 1943. Democrats and Republicans alike saw this as further proof that FDR had been lying all along. Some suggest that a U.S.-flagged schooner sent into Japanese waters that same day was intended to provoke a fight. Roosevelt got Pearl Harbor instead, which was a surprise but nonetheless "rescued" the president, in Hofstadter’s words, from the "dilemma" of needing to start a war the American people opposed.

Assuming those historical facts as true, I don’t see where FDR’s "lie" is.  Drawing up plans is not a "lie" — it is preparedness. 

Provoking a fight by sending a U.S. ship into Japanese waters?  That’s entrapment at worst, but heck — if the Japanese took the bait and attacked the schooner, they are culpable. 

In any event, neither of those example rise to the level of what Bush, according to his critics, has done — which is to deceive the American people.

And how far is one willing to go with the "just cause" exception to lying?  Suppose a President was fighting a "just war" overseas.  And domestically, he suddenly became embroiled in a sex scandal — one that threated his standing as a leader and, by consequence, his ability to lead as commander-in-chief?  Would that President, I wonder, be justified in lying?  Jonah?  Jonah?

But even if accept Jonah’s argument, it can only succeed that the cause is worth the "lie".  And most Americans now poll that — regardless of whether we were lied to or not — Iraq was not worth it.

Still, it’s an odd tactic, and wreaks of desparation.  Perhaps one day, we’ll actually start hearing that from the White House.  "Look, it doesn’t matter if we lied; our cause is just".  Now THAT State of the Union I would actually want to hear.

Oil Exec Follow-up

Ken AshfordCongress, Corporate Greed, CrimeLeave a Comment

As I wrote yesterday, it looks like oil exceutives lied to Congess (not under oath, however).

Well, today I can report that the story may have legs:

Democrats asked the U.S. attorney general Wednesday to investigate whether top executives from big oil companies lied to Congress when they said their companies did not take part in Vice President Dick Cheney’s energy task force.

Democrats and environmental groups have fought unsuccessfully to find out which energy industry executives met privately with Cheney’s group in 2001 as it prepared a broad plan friendly to oil industry interests. Environmental groups said they were mostly excluded from the discussions.

At a Senate hearing last week on record oil profits, Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey asked five executives, "Did your company or any representatives in your companies participate in Vice President Cheney’s energy force in 2001?"

Each executive answered the question in the negative.

However, The Washington Post reported Wednesday that a White House document showed some companies did in fact meet with the task force.

Time Travel

Ken AshfordIraqLeave a Comment

Sometimes you see a headline, and you wonder if it is 2005 or 2002.  Here’s one:

Iraqi Minister Defends Torture Facility

If this were 2002, we would be outraged and go to war to stop it.

But it’s 2005, and the government of Iraq is our buddy.  So it’s, you know, okay.

Got that?

Speaking of time travel, here’s an interesting story:

Even after Richard Nixon’s secret war in Cambodia became known, the president persisted in deception. "Publicly, we say one thing," he told aides. "Actually, we do another."

Nggggg!

Newly declassified documents from the Nixon years shed light on the Vietnam War, the struggle with the Soviet Union for global influence and a president who tried not to let public and congressional opinion get in his way.

Imagine that.  Well, that was then, this is now, right?  Right?

And this section jumped out at me:

Nixon noted that Americans believed the Cambodian operation was "all but over," even as 14,000 troops were engaged across the border in a hunt for North Vietnamese operating there.

Mmmmm.  Yeah, that couldn’t happen today.

Missacc

Where The WMDs Went

Ken AshfordIraq, Right Wing Punditry/IdiocyLeave a Comment

Pretty intriguing title, yes?

I thought so when I saw the same title at Powerline

"Oh, boy," I thought.  "We’re going to finally learn where the WMDs went!"

But the Powerline post wasn’t answering.  Instead, it linked to an interview at Frontpagemag.com with one of the former UNSCOM inspectors.  The interview was also provocatively entitled "Where The WMDs Went".

"Oh, boy," I thought (again). "We’re going to finally learn where the WMDs went!"

And right at the start of the interview, comes the money question:

…I’d like to discuss your own knowledge and expertise on this issue in connection to Iraq. You have always held that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Why? Can you discuss some actual finds?

"Oh, boy!"  I cried with unbridled excitement.  "Actual finds!!!  We’re going to finally learn where the WMDs went!!!!"

But, sadly, the answer from the UNSCOM professor was long and convoluted (read it for yourself).  And it contained passages like this:

For instance, the Iraqis would ask in very reasonable tones that questionable documents be set aside until the end of the day, when a discussion would determine what was truly of interest to UNSCOM.  The chief inspector, not wanting to appear like a knuckle-dragging ogre, would agree.  Instead of setting the documents on a table in a stack, the Iraqis would set them side to side, filling the entire table top, and would place the most explosive documents on the edge of the table.  At some point they would flood the room with people, and in the confusion abscond with the revealing documents.   

The question is about where the WMDs went — "actual finds" — and the answer centers around pseudo-psychology focussing on where documents are placed on a table?!?

*Sigh*

The discouraging thing is that somewhere out there, there are a bunch of Freepers who will someday say, "Yes we had actual finds of WMDs in Iraq.  I read about it once!"

An Explanation

Ken AshfordCorporate GreedLeave a Comment

Some people scratched their heads when oil executives testified before Congress last week.  The custom is that people who testify — from tobacco executive to Raphael Palmiero — take an oath.  For some reason, Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), the chair of the Senate Energy Committee, steadfastly refused to have the oil executives take an oath.

Matt Yglesius discovers a possible reason:

Meanwhile, this is in many ways the craziest scandal yet. Documents leaked to The Washington Post reveal that some of the secret meetings of the Cheney energy task force were attended by . . . people from oil companies. Not exactly the surprise of the year. The thing of it is, though, that just last week Frank Lautenberg had a bunch of oil company executives in a committee hearing and asked if their companies met with the task force and . . . they all said no.

Gotcha.

Their Mothers Must Be So Proud

Ken AshfordScience & Technology2 Comments

From Boing Boing:

iBuzz is a sex toy plug-in for iPods, or other music players. It’s £29.99 from LoveHoney, but can’t be shipped to North America. From the product description:

_prodimages_200_ibuzz1 A super-fun sex toy that plugs into your iPod! The music-activated vibrating bullet stimulates you in time with your favourite music. And you can listen to your songs while you’re enjoying the vibrations…

Use the his-and-hers attachments to add extra excitement. Turn him into a vibrator with the stretchy ring and use the soft sleeve for sensitive stimulation.

No music player? You can still use the iBuzz for orgasmic fun. Just turn on and enjoy the 7 amazing vibration patterns – press the arrow buttons until you find the one that suits your mood.

Please submit your jokes, puns, etc. about this story to the comment section.

Why I Can’t Find Women

Ken AshfordWomen's Issues2 Comments

I’m not married, and I’m not seriously seeing anyone.  As anyone guy in my demographic will tell you, the pickins are slim, especially when you don’t live in a major metropolis.  Doubting Thomases might say that I’m not really looking hard enough, but — no kidding — there’s not a lot there.

Oh, there are available women, to be sure, but the kind of men they want make those women unattractive to me.  Like women who want "bad boys".  Yeah, cute when you are young and in your teens and twenties, but to think that’s the earmarks of a quality relationship?

And here’s one woman who takes the "bad boy" thing waaaaay too far:

Woman to marry man who shot her

Boyfriend sentenced to 20 years in prison

SAN BERNARDINO, California (AP) — A woman says she still plans to marry the man who shot her in the groin and then held her hostage in his family’s garage for six days.

Tina Marie Stebbins revealed her intentions in a letter released Monday as her boyfriend, Christian Leroy Lindblad, 37, was sentenced to 20 years in prison for shooting her in June 2002.

"I love Christian today as deeply as I loved him before this awful thing happened to us," Stebbins wrote in a victim impact statement. "We are soul mates."

She added: "I want to tell you all that I have forgiven Christian. And I pray that Christian has forgiven me for failing him when he needed me most."

Hey, I think forgiveness is a wonderful trait.  And it takes one hell of a woman to forgive a guy who shot her in the groin.

But to seek your shooter’s forgiveness and marry him?  Girl, get help.

Tried-And-True Methods

Ken AshfordBush & Co., IraqLeave a Comment

It’s interesting.

Many people like me assert that the Bush Administration cherry-picked and exaggerated intelligence in order to convince people that we needed to invade Iraq.

The Bush Administration is now fighting back by selecting "pro-war" quotes from prominent Democrats who now oppose the Iraq War.

But even in doing that, the Bushies are cherry-picking and exaggerating the evidence.  His Royal Rudeness explains.

The Insular Bubble Becomes A Soap Sud

Ken AshfordBush & Co.Leave a Comment

Loathe as I am to link to Matt Drudge, I found this interesting:

Bush rarely speaks to father, ‘family is split’
Tue Nov 15 2005 11:23:51 ET

President Bush feels betrayed by several of his most senior aides and advisors and has severely restricted access to the Oval Office, INSIGHT magazine claims in a new report.

The president’s reclusiveness in the face of relentless public scrutiny of the U.S.-led war in Iraq and White House leaks regarding CIA operative Valerie Plame has become so extreme that Mr. Bush has also reduced contact with his father, former President George H.W. Bush, administration sources said on the condition of anonymity.

“The atmosphere in the Oval Office has become unbearable,” a source said. “Even the family is split.”

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The sources said Mr. Bush maintains daily contact with only four people: first lady Laura Bush, his mother, Barbara Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Undersecretary of State Karen Hughes. The sources also say that Mr. Bush has stopped talking with his father, except on family occasions.

Google Proof

Ken AshfordRight Wing Punditry/IdiocyLeave a Comment

As silly and stupid as Michelle Malkin can be, the guest bloggers on her blog take great pains to top her obtuseness.

Take Bryan Preston and his post titled "Did Bush Lie?  Google It!"

He urges (many many many times) for readers to google the phrase "Clinton Iraq 1998".  And, for good measure, he throws in a helpful graphic for morons who don’t know what it is like to Google something. 

The tragedy of the situation is that the administration could prove beyond doubt that it didn’t lie its way into war just by promoting a simple Google search. Take a look at this graphic:

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Wow.  Thanks for the graphic.  Very instructive.  I guess he wants me to google "Clinton Iraq 1998". 

Or does he?

You can either go to Google and plug in the search string in that graphic, or you can just click on the graphic. Google will take you back in time to 1998, the last time prior to the invasion that the US and Saddam Hussein had a major confrontation.

Yeah, I think he does want me to google "Clinton Iraq 1998".  But how can I be sure?

And the biggest conspiracy theory that the left loves concerns the war, and how Bush LIED us into it.

So Google it. Prove for yourself that he didn’t, and indeed couldn’t have. Tell your wavering friends to Google Clinton Iraq 1998. If you have Bush-hating friends, make them do that search and then watch their world crumble around them.

Yeah, he wants me to google it.

Of course, as Preston promises, you will find many articles in which Clinton and other Democrats suggest that Saddam had designs on developing WMD.

Of course, this fact is not in dispute.  More importantly, it does not have any bearing on whether Bush cherrypicked and exaggerated evidence in the run-up to the war.  Unlike Clinton, the Bush Administration took the position that the threat was "imminent" and "urgent" — so much so that invasion was necessary to the interests of this country.  And invasion NOW.

Out of Preston’s Google results, I wonder how many of them show Clinton saying that.

The answer: zero.

But the thing that amuses me most is Preston’s Google-As-God reverence.  You know, just because Google throws a lot of shit back at you, doesn’t mean it is the last word in the whole Bush exaggeration issue

But if you think so, google the word "failure" and tell me what the most prominent result it.  Go!  Do it now!  Google it!  Do it!  Now!